THE GREAT MYSTERY RIDDLE. "the beast that was, and is not, and yet is" .HAS FINALLY BEEN SOLVED!

....................."the beast that was, and is not, and yet is."
...In order to understand this riddle, we must first look at the beast of Rev.13:1-3 in Historical context.
Rev 17:8 "the beast that was(Rev.13:1-3), and is not(Rev.12:3), and yet is(Rev.17:3)."
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Rev. 13:1-2 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea (of people: Rev. 17:15),
having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the
mouth of a lion (1Pt.5:8): and the dragon (Revelation 12:3) gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.  


........................................Head 1: Egypt  -one head -one horn -one crown

........................................Head 2: Assyrian -one head -one horn -one crown

Head of gold:................Head 3: Babylon -one head -one horn -one crown............................ ...Lion (Daniel 7:4)

Arms of silver:...............Head 4: Medo-Persia -one head -one horn -one crown...................... ...Bear (Daniel 7:5)

Thighs of brass:............Head 5: Greeks -one head -four horns -four crowns................... ...Leopard (Daniel 7:6)

Feet of iron & clay:........Head 6: Roman -one head -one horn -one crown.............................. ...ten horns (Daniel 7:7-8)

........................................Head 7: Ottoman -one head -one horn -one crown

.........................................................................................= ten horns - at this point it has ten crowns

......................................................Then it suffered a deadly wound:


And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition. (Rev.17:11)
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.............................................Muhammad did not have a world empire,
.............................................but Mahammudin-islam is a resurgence of
.............................................the beast with a deadly wound. (Rev.13:3)

Muhammadin islam is the eithth and of the seventh: and this whole beastly world system is going into perdition.
All of these past empires are now islamic. You need to read Psalm Chapter 83 to better understand this. (Rev.17:11)

Rev 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition:
and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from
the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
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First this leopard beast looses "-THREE CROWNS" and the camouflage spots exposing it as the great red dragon of Rev.12:3:

...................Revelation 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven;
..............and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and
..............ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

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..............................................................(See  Gal.1:8, 2Cor.11:14)
................................................................The quranic prophecy

.....................And the two horned lamb beast (islam) of Rev.13:11, causeth all to worship
.....................the first beast before him (in world conquest): The leopard beast of Rev.13:1-3.

"And he doeth great wonders, so that he(Muhammad) maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast;"
(Rev 13:13-14)
                   
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Finally the red dragon looses "-THE REST OF THE CROWNS" - the spirit of antichrist's plan of world conquest is exposed as islam:

................Rev. 17:3 "I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast,
................full of names of blasphemy, having seven head and ten horns."

................islam is the kingdom of the antichrist!

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Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH!
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä-ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
עד “Ed” (Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14 / Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)

THE GREAT RIDDLE "the beast that was, and is not, and yet is." HAS FINALLY BEEN SOLVED!
What does "the beast that was, and is not, and yet is" mean? the meaning is "the beast that was, and is not, and yet is" means that it is and is not.
And they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life
from the foundation of the world, when they behold (Rev.17:3) "the beast that was, and is not, and yet is".
"the beast that was, and is not, and yet is" is clearly answered by the fact that "the beast that was, and is not, and yet is" means because it is clearly solved
To understand exactly who and what is "the beast that was, and is not, and yet is" we must look into the historical context
of the leopard beast listed in Rev.13:1-3 to understand "the beast that was(Rev.13:1-3), and is not(Rev.12:3), and yet is(Rev.17:3)."
"the beast that was, and is not, and yet is" is islam and "the beast that was, and is not, and yet is" is about Muhammad's god is the beast that was, and is not.
Muhammadin islam is the eithth system and of the seventh: and the whole world system is going to go into perdition.
"the beast that was, and is not, and yet is" is about the antichrist which is the beast that was, and is not, is about the false prophet coming to the dragon
"The beast that was, and is not, and yet is" and its spirit of antichrist systems is bent on world conquest,
this is illustrated by a harlot riding on a read dragon full of the names of blasphemy.
The answer to "the beast that was, and is not, and yet is" has finally been revealed, so we can see that the beast that was, is the world system into perdition
B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)

Ed J wrote:

THE GREAT RIDDLE "the beast that was, and is not, and yet is." HAS FINALLY BEEN SOLVED!
What does "the beast that was, and is not, and yet is" mean? the meaning is "the beast that was, and is not, and yet is" means that it is and is not.
And they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life
from the foundation of the world, when they behold (Rev.17:3) "the beast that was, and is not, and yet is".
"the beast that was, and is not, and yet is" is clearly answered by the fact that "the beast that was, and is not, and yet is" means because it is clearly solved
To understand exactly who and what is "the beast that was, and is not, and yet is" we must look into the historical context
of the leopard beast listed in Rev.13:1-3 to understand "the beast that was(Rev.13:1-3), and is not(Rev.12:3), and yet is(Rev.17:3)."
"the beast that was, and is not, and yet is" is islam and "the beast that was, and is not, and yet is" is about Muhammad's god is the beast that was, and is not.
Muhammadin islam is the eithth system and of the seventh: and the whole world system is going to go into perdition.
"the beast that was, and is not, and yet is" is about the antichrist which is the beast that was, and is not, is about the false prophet coming to the dragon
"The beast that was, and is not, and yet is" and its spirit of antichrist systems is bent on world conquest,
this is illustrated by a harlot riding on a read dragon full of the names of blasphemy.
The answer to "the beast that was, and is not, and yet is" has finally been revealed, so we can see that the beast that was, is the world system into perdition
B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)

Of course Islam cannot be anything other than submission to God

Hi all,

I read this once:


"could 666 = www (world wide web)

The Hebrew and Greek alphabet does not have separate characters or alphabets for numbers and letters.
Letters are also used as numbers. So each letter is a numerical value.

The Hebrew equivalent of our "w" is the letter "vav" or "waw".
The numerical value of vav is 6.
So the English "www" transliterated into Hebrew is "vav vav vav", which numerically is 666."
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Source: http://www.av1611.org/666/www_666.html

If you read all of the Earliest Church writings... They speak of the Roman Empire being Revived in the future.
This is possibly the European Nations.

What came out of the European Nations,
Is it not what we see on the TV and Internet etc most of the time.
I mean, the breaking of all of the commandments, including not to make a graven image.

TV:

"And I saw another beast coming up out of the land, and it had two horns, like a lamb, and it was speaking as a dragon,

12 and all the authority of the first beast doth it do before it, and it maketh the land and those dwelling in it that they shall bow before the first beast, whose deadly stroke was healed,
13 and it doth great signs, that fire also it may make to come down from the heaven to the earth before men,
14 and it leadeth astray those dwelling on the land, because of the signs that were given it to do before the beast, saying to those dwelling upon the land to make an image to the beast that hath the stroke of the sword and did live,
15 and there was given to it to give a spirit to the image of the beast, that also the image of the beast may speak, and that it may cause as many as shall not bow before the image of the beast, that they may be killed.

Internet:

16 And it maketh all, the small, and the great, and the rich, and the poor, and the freemen, and the servants, that it may give to them a mark upon their right hand or upon their foreheads,
17 and that no one may be able to buy, or to sell, except he who is having the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18 Here is the wisdom! He who is having the understanding, let him count the number of the beast, for the number of man it is, and its number is six hundred and sixty six.

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A beast is a Kingdom.
Has man not made his own "Kingdom" on the TV and on the Internet?
Does man not "Bow Down" to them in a way (serve them).

The older TVs had Aerials and seemed innocent (two horns like a Lamb) but they turned bad (spoke like a Dragon).
Does not the TV and the Internet do great signs and wonders, even making fire come down from the sky, in the site of all men?
Does it not lead astray?
Is it not an image of the Kingdoms?
Was it not given a "spirit" that it may speak?

And the Internet.. Does it not cause a 'light reflection' (mark) on the forehead, or on the right hand.
Is not all of our banking attached to the 'WWW' World Wide Web? [W = 6 in Hebrew = WWW = 666].

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You may laugh but - just saying.

Ed J wrote:

And they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life
from the foundation of the world, when they behold (Rev.17:3) "the beast that was, and is not, and yet is".

Yes exactly.
Do we not look in "wonderment" at the TV and the Net?

really wrote:

Hi all,

I read this once:


"could 666 = www (world wide web)

The Hebrew and Greek alphabet does not have separate characters or alphabets for numbers and letters.
Letters are also used as numbers. So each letter is a numerical value.

The Hebrew equivalent of our "w" is the letter "vav" or "waw".
The numerical value of vav is 6.
So the English "www" transliterated into Hebrew is "vav vav vav", which numerically is 666."
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Source: http://www.av1611.org/666/www_666.html

Hi Really,

That would be "VVV", not www. You would know this
if you knew the Hebrew language, and here's why: (see lower part)

This thread is NOT at all about cyphering the number 666. However you are
more than welcome to start a new thread on cyphering the number 666.
This thread is instead about cyphering the meaning of Revelation 17:8

Rev 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition:
and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from
the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
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....The “Divine”(63) “Deity”(63) of “The Bible”(63) is “YHVH”(63); “YHVH is GOD”.

YHVH is God's Name, which is יהוה translated directly into English; as Hebrew lacks vowels!
GOD’s most sacred Holy Name יהוה was given to us directly from the Hebrew language.

Correctly translating Hebrew into other languages can be difficult however. Some basic
linguistical rules need to be considered when translating Hebrew texts. These include a lack
of spacing between words, as a general rule has no written vowels and the basic direction
in which Hebrew is written (opposite: from right to left). Hebrew word spacing is a modern
advent that distinguishes one word from the next, aiding both translators and multi-linguists
alike. Unwritten “implied” vowel sounds are a concern because, correct pronunciations of
Hebrew words are at risk. This point is made because the correct pronunciation was
thought to be lost, which led only to translators’ interpretations, and incorrect spellings.

GOD’s Name (יהוה) transliterates directly into English as YHVH because the Hebrew alphabet
lacks vowels. Hebrew has No [W] sound, No [J] sound and the symbol ש is pronounced “Sh”.


יהוה GOD’s Name ... [י] Yod . [ה] Ha . [ו] Vav . [ה] Hey... is pronounced. YÄ-hä-vā .&. [יה] YÄ(26)

The identity of (26)יהוה is “GOD”(26) spoken as YÄ-hä-vā: where ä sounds like
that of the word “ah” and the other ā sounds like the vowel in the word “hay”.

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God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

bodhitharta wrote:

Of course Islam cannot be anything other than submission to God

Hi Bodhitharta,

Submission to the wrong God (see 2Cor.4:4). God's word has warned us (indirectly) that Islam would emerge (see below).
The strange fire that is seen by men as coming down from heaven (from the false prophet) is 'the Quran'. (ref. Rev.13:13)

The Quran is reported to have been given by Gabriel (see Gal.1:6-9), but was really delivered by Lucifer (see 2Cor.11:14-15)!
It's vital to understand that the 'book of fraud'(=quran book) teaches against the "Gospel"(74)
................................................................................................(death, burial & resurrection of "Jesus"(74))
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God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Hi Ed the only problem with my theory of the television being the image of the beast is that people are not killed if they do not have or watch one!

"and that it may cause as many as shall not bow before the image of the beast, that they may be killed."

Unless there is a deeper meaning to those words.?

Hi FredandMary,

......................the quranic prophecy

"And he(the false prophet) doeth great wonders, so that he(Muhammad) maketh fire
come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men" (Rev 13:13)

...............Now compare that wording to this:

"Is not my word like as a fire? saith the LORD; and like a hammer that breaketh the rock(antichrist) in pieces?  
Therefore, behold, I against the prophets, saith the LORD, that steal my words every one from his neighbor.
Behold, I against the prophets, saith the LORD, that use their tongues, and say, He saith." (Jer 23:29-31)

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God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Hi FredandMary,

Here God has forewarned us of the coming the quran and islam.

Gal.1:6-9 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you
into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there
be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we,
or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have
preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any
man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

2Cor.11:14-15 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Therefore it is no great thing if [Satan's ministers] also be transformed as the
ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

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God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

FredandMary wrote:

help me out AND YET IS=97=PRESENT

Hi FredandMary,

"the beast that was(Rev.13:1-3), and is not(Rev.12:3), and yet is(Rev.17:3)."
This phrase exposes the great red dragon that is behind the spirit of antichrist.

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God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

FredandMary wrote:

TOTAL=151=JESUS CHRIST ---MARK 12 V 4 WOUNDED HIM IN THE HEAD
REV 13 V 2 LEOPARD,BEAR ,LION ALL THREE JESUS AS -----HE IS IN ALL THIS
LEOPARD HOSEA 13 V 7
BEAR HOSEA 13 V 8
LION HOSEA 11 V 10
LION HOSEA 5 V 14----JESUS REFERING HIMSELF----

Hi FredandMary,

I see that you are beginning to see. 'antichrist' presents himself as a counterfeit to "Jesus Christ"=151.
'Muhammadin-islam'=151 is that counterfeit. Please consider carefully what God says about it:

.........Abaddon(41) + Apollyon(110) = 151

"And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name
in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon." (Rev 9:11 (KJV)

................antichrist bible=151

"And he(the false prophet) doeth great wonders, so that he(Muhammad) maketh fire
come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men" (Rev 13:13)

Compare that wording to this:

"Is not my word like as a fire? saith the LORD; and like a hammer that breaketh the rock(antichrist) in pieces?
Therefore, behold, I against the prophets, saith the LORD, that steal my words every one from his neighbor.
Behold, I against the prophets, saith the LORD, that use their tongues, and say, He saith." (Jer 23:29-31)


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God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

one of the heads was healed