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PostSubject: The Christ vs. the Roman Catholic Chuch   The Christ vs. the Roman Catholic Chuch Empty10/16/2012, 22:27

The Christ and the Roman Catholic Church conflict in many ways: (1) Women must have equal rights including becoming priests. (2) Priests & nuns must have the choice of being celibate and can marry. (3) Communion & Mass are special things and are to occur only on Sun-day. (4) Jesus was born on April 17, 6 BC (17/4/748 AUC). (5) John the Baptist & Mary Magdalean were married and had a son: John Jr. When the Baptist was killed, in the Hebrew tradtion, Jesus the first cousin married Mary and adopted his son. (Marry Mary?!) This is why Magdalean and the Apostle John (Jr.) were allowed to be at the Cross on Friday April 7, 30 AD (7/4/783) - the Romans only permitted immediate family to be present at a crucifixion. (6) A woman has the right to an abortion. Life begins with the 'Holy Breath', not at conception. (7) The Roman Catholic Church and all churches must become democratic-republics like the Presbyterian Church. All finances are to be open and every individual parish must display their annual audited financial report in the lobby of the church. (8] The Catholic Church in the US must follow its laws including the healthcare mandate requiring contraceptive services for employees of some Catholic institutions. (9) Mandatory retirement for the Pope at age 80. (10) To recognize the return of the Christ, he must produce the "book/scroll with the 7 seals" prophesied in The Revelation 5:1-10:10.
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PostSubject: Re: The Christ vs. the Roman Catholic Chuch   The Christ vs. the Roman Catholic Chuch Empty11/16/2012, 02:30

Hi Brad,

Brad Watson, Miami wrote:
The Christ and the Roman Catholic Church conflict in many ways:
I am not sure whether you are saying the ten items you listed are taught by Catholicim, or taught by Christ. I will attempt to respond to them and the responses should tell what I consider to be the truth of each item.


Brad Watson, Miami wrote:
(1) Women must have equal rights including becoming priests.
I was raised in Catholicism and do not acknowledge this to be the doctrine I was raised under, so either it is new, or you are saying it clashes with Christ's teaching, if I understand your point correctly. This will be standard for each point I address.

Since the Catholic priesthood was adopted from the Levitical priesthood of the old covenant, and they were not allowed female priestesses; Only the male of the line was a priest. It is not considered "orthodox" doctrine, but may be in the proccess of being established through "tradition" which requires a few years of being taught and practiced before it becomes "orthodoxy."


Brad Watson, Miami wrote:
(2) Priests & nuns must have the choice of being celibate and can marry.
Since Jesus taught that all Christians are priests, and taught nothing about nuns, this has to be a reference to Catholic doctrine. Since Catholicism is a man-made tradition-based church, they can pretty well do what they want to as long as they don't try to claim Jesus taught it.


Brad Watson, Miami wrote:
(3) Communion & Mass are special things and are to occur only on Sun-day.
Actually, in Catholocism, the mass is said daily, several times a day. And, as it is not taught by Jesus, it does not matter how many times a day, or how often it occurs.


Brad Watson, Miami wrote:
(4) Jesus was born on April 17, 6 BC (17/4/748 AUC).
art of scripture, it does not matter what claims are made for Jesus' birthday; as long as no one tries to force it on everyone.


Brad Watson, Miami wrote:
(5) John the Baptist & Mary Magdalean were married and had a son: John Jr. When the Baptist was killed, in the Hebrew tradtion, Jesus the first cousin married Mary and adopted his son.
Actually the law stated "when brothers dwell together and one has a wife, and he dies leaving no seed, he will marry the widow and raise seed to his brother's name." It does not only not apply to cousins, the "cousin" involvement violates the marriage laws of Israel.


Brad Watson, Miami wrote:
(continued) (Marry Mary?!) This is why Magdalean and the Apostle John (Jr.) were allowed to be at the Cross on Friday April 7, 30 AD (7/4/783) - the Romans only permitted immediate family to be present at a crucifixion.
In #4 above, you stated _"4) Jesus was born on April 17, 6 BC "
Now you have his date of death as 30 a.d.
That would make him 36 years of age when he died.
But Luke tells us "And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age..." [Luke 3] at the beginning of his mission. His mission lasted approximately 3-1/2 years, so he did not live to see 44 years of age.


Brad Watson, Miami wrote:
(6) A woman has the right to an abortion. Life begins with the 'Holy Breath', not at conception.
Way wrong! Life began in the garden of Eden, and you cannot show one person that came into the world that does not inherit that life that began in that garden. Even Jesus was "made of a woman" so in that respect at least, he is like the rest of us. His physical body has life that began in the garden of Eden with Adam and Eve.


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(7) The Roman Catholic Church and all churches must become democratic-republics like the Presbyterian Church. All finances are to be open and every individual parish must display their annual audited financial report in the lobby of the church.
Why? All the denominations in the Christian dispensatin need to go back to the scriptures and become in line with what scripture says, and they say nothing about "democratic republics" or politically engineered groups whatsoever. Christianity is not a democracy, nor is it a republic, It is a body of believers whose head is in heaven. And its members are not allowed a vote in the teachings of Christ. They were commandments and teachings, not suggestions for a vote.


Brad Watson, Miami wrote:
(8] The Catholic Church in the US must follow its laws including the healthcare mandate requiring contraceptive services for employees of some Catholic institutions.

the morals of htis nation have fallen to the point of resembling alley cats in heat, it has no bearing upon instilling immoral laws upon its members. Christians are in no way supposed to follow all the immoral laws and mores of the society in which it finds itself coming out from to be separate. Your statement seems to say the opposite, if I understand it correctly.


Brad Watson, Miami wrote:
(9) Mandatory retirement for the Pope at age 80.
How can a "subjective" body of believers dictate mandates to their leader-on-earth? It cannot be done.


Brad Watson, Miami wrote:
(10) To recognize the return of the Christ, he must produce the "book/scroll with the 7 seals" prophesied in The Revelation 5:1-10:10.
On this one I need clarification from you. Are you saying the pope must produce the 7-sealed scroll? Or are you saing the returning Jesus must produce it?


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PostSubject: Re: The Christ vs. the Roman Catholic Chuch   The Christ vs. the Roman Catholic Chuch Empty11/16/2012, 03:31

Paladin wrote:
I am not sure whether you are saying the ten items you listed are taught by Catholicim, or taught by Christ.

They are taught by the 2nd Coming of the Christ. Therefore, these are new to the Roman Catholic Church.

(1) Women must have equal rights including becoming priests.
(2) Priests & nuns must have the choice of being celibate and can marry.
(3) Communion & Mass are special things and are to occur only on Sun-day.
(4) Jesus was born on April 17, 6 BC (17/4/748 AUC).
(5) John the Baptist & Mary Magdalean were married and had a son: John Jr. When the Baptist was killed (in the Hebrew tradtion, Jesus the nearest relative [first cousin]) married Mary and adopted his son.
Paladin wrote:
Actually the law stated "when brothers dwell together and one has a wife, and he dies leaving no seed, he will marry the widow and raise seed to his brother's name." It does not only not apply to cousins, the "cousin" involvement violates the marriage laws of Israel.
Have you got a source(s) for that? If that's true, it still does not negate that John the Baptist & Mary Magdalean were married and had a son: John Jr. And that Jesus then married Mary and adopted her son: John the Apostle (St. John the Divine?).

Paladin wrote:
In #4 above, you stated "4) Jesus was born on April 17, 6 BC " Now you have his date of death as 30 A.D.
That would make him 36 years of age when he died.
But Luke tells us "And Jesus himself began his ministry at about thirty years of age..." [Luke 3]. His mission lasted approximately 3 1/2 years.
Paladin, Jesus74 was born on 17/4/748 AUC (4/17/6 BC). I never said "date of death", I said, Y'shua74 was crucified on 7/4/783 AUC. This date is generally agreed on by scholars including Catholic scholars. IESVS74 was 34 years-old when he was crucified. This is in line with Luke 3:23. We do not know when the historical Jesus died - he may have lived longer than Peter & Paul who were executed on October 13, 64 AD (13/10/817 AUC)?

(6) A woman has the right to an abortion. Life begins with the 'Holy Breath', not at conception. Life did NOT begin in the garden of Eden, although that is a historical story of extraterrestrial intervention. This universe is 13.75 billion-years-old and Earth is 4.55 billion-years-old, humans are 2 million+ years-old. There are humanoids on other planets and they have visited Earth quite abit throughout history.

(7) The Roman Catholic Church and all churches must become democratic-republics like the Presbyterian Church. All finances are to be open and every individual parish must display their annual audited financial report in the lobby of the church. "Christianity is not a democracy, nor is it a republic," is both wrong and right. Christ 2 has returned to claim his church. And at the same time, all churches are to be set up as deomocratic-republics, i.e. the Presbyterian Church. 'Heaven' is a frame-of-mind.

(8] The Catholic Church in the US must follow its laws including the healthcare mandate requiring contraceptive services for employees of some Catholic institutions. There is nothing "immoral" about this and so-called-'Christians" are to imitate Jesus the Christ and Christ 2. It is YOU who seem to stand for antiChrist beliefs.

(9) Mandatory retirement for the Pope at age 80. Christ 2 can definitely mandate this, right?*

(10) To recognize the 2nd Coming, Christ 2 must produce the "book/scroll with the 7 seals" prophesied in The Revelation 5:1-10:10. I have produced this with GOD's help (or GOD has produced it with my help). It's entitled There Are No Coincidences - there is synchronism. The "7 seals" are revealed as 'beyond Einstein theories'.


Synchronism: 11:26 *"You are being accused of not allowing younger members to come to power." - posed to Nancy Pelosi yesterday in press conference - HLN
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PostSubject: Re: The Christ vs. the Roman Catholic Chuch   The Christ vs. the Roman Catholic Chuch Empty11/16/2012, 11:58

Brad Watson, Miami wrote:
Paladin wrote:
I am not sure whether you are saying the ten items you listed are taught by Catholicim, or taught by Christ.

They are taught by the 2nd Coming of the Christ. Therefore, these are new to the Roman Catholic Church.

(5) John the Baptist & Mary Magdalean were married and had a son: John Jr. When the Baptist was killed (in the Hebrew tradtion, Jesus the nearest relative [first cousin]) married Mary and adopted his son.
Paladin wrote:
Actually the law stated "when brothers dwell together and one has a wife, and he dies leaving no seed, he will marry the widow and raise seed to his brother's name." [Deut 25:5-10]

It does not only not apply to cousins, the "cousin" involvement violates the marriage laws of Israel.
[Num 36:5-13]

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If that's true, it still does not negate that John the Baptist & Mary Magdalean were married and had a son: John Jr. And that Jesus then married Mary and adopted her son: John the Apostle (St. John the Divine?).

You really should quit reading those stupid books about the marriage of Jesus, and the marriage of John the
Baptist, For they have no basis in scripture, other than to break the inheritance laws of Israel. Of course the scripture account negates such a marriage as you describe.

On page 347 of "Holy Blood; Holy Grail" the authors state that Mary Magdalene is of the tribe of Benjamine. This forever puts her out of the running for a bride for Jesus or for John the baptist.


Paladin wrote:
In #4 above, you stated "4) Jesus was born on April 17, 6 BC " Now you have his date of death as 30 A.D.
That would make him 36 years of age when he died.
But Luke tells us "And Jesus himself began his ministry at about thirty years of age..." [Luke 3]. His mission lasted approximately 3 1/2 years.
Paladin, Jesus74 was born on 17/4/748 AUC (4/17/6 BC). I never said "date of death", I said, Y'shua74 was crucified on 7/4/783 AUC. This date is generally agreed on by scholars including Catholic scholars. IESVS74 was 34 years-old when he was crucified. This is in line with Luke 3:23. We do not know when the historical Jesus died - he may have lived longer than Peter & Paul who were executed on October 13, 64 AD (13/10/817 AUC)?

So what you are saying is, you do not accept the scriptural account for anything. Why didn't you say so to begin with and save me all this time I spent responding to you?
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PostSubject: Re: The Christ vs. the Roman Catholic Chuch   The Christ vs. the Roman Catholic Chuch Empty11/18/2012, 15:18

Seal #1: The Conglomerate of Nonparallel-Universes Theory (Universe Creation Theory)

The Big Bang (supermassive white hole) 13.75 billion years ago was the result of a supermassive black hole in another universe. This duality combines these two singularities in a birth-life-death-rebirth relationship within The Conglomerate of nonparallel-universes. This `simple' cause-and-effect explains both infinite space and infinite time (eternity). Self-replication is the simplest design58 for everything from a cell to a universe to a mind.

"In the beginning"... This theory explains what happened before the Big Bang and what will happen after this universe's possible demise billions of years into the future. The Guardin' of Eden story took place c. 4,000 BC through extraterrestrial intervention with the 'God guy' cloning himself to produce Adam, then again to produce Eve. (Humans existed elsewhere & Earth is 4.55 billion-years-old.) The near future should bring confirmation of extraterrestrial life and their intervention with global cultures. Advanced technology and wormholes (Einstein-Rosen bridges) should eventually provide interuniversal travel. Note: It appears that this universe creation theory is now accepted by over 50% of astrophysicists.

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PostSubject: Re: The Christ vs. the Roman Catholic Chuch   The Christ vs. the Roman Catholic Chuch Empty1/14/2013, 17:55

Paladin wrote:
Hi Brad,

Brad Watson, Miami wrote:
Jesus was born on April 17, 6 BC.
art of scripture, it does not matter what claims are made for Jesus' birthday; as long as no one tries to force it on everyone.

Paladin
Hi Brad, and Paladin,

Brad, what makes you believe that is Jesus' exact birthday?
And Paladin, when do you believe that Jesus' birthday was?

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God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
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PostSubject: Christ 2 contacts the Roman Catholic Church   The Christ vs. the Roman Catholic Chuch Empty2/14/2013, 01:49

"Jesus of Nazareth, son of Joseph" (John 1:45) was crucified by the Romans. And how would the Roman Catholic Church treat the 2nd Coming of the Christ? Well, I can tell you exactly what has happened so far. On many occasions, I have respectfully given Vatican priests, South Florida Archbishop John Favalora and Archbishop Thomas Wenski, other bishops, monsignors, and many other priests copies of There Are No Coincidences - there is synchronism which is the "book/scroll with the 7 seals ('beyond Einstein theories') on its cover" prophesied in The Revelation 5:1-10:10. They have ignored this information and also ignored Christ 2 (E=mc2) like they have ignored the Jesus Family Tomb being discovered in East Talpiot (between Jerusalem and Bethlehem). How much longer can the Roman Catholic Church do this?

To see the "7 Seals"/theories, go to http://7seals.blogspot.com , http://7seals.yuku.com , and http://RevelationRevealed.proboards.com
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PostSubject: 2nd Coming of the Christ   The Christ vs. the Roman Catholic Chuch Empty2/14/2013, 03:48

Paladin wrote:
I am not sure whether you are saying the ten items you listed are taught by Catholicism, or taught by Christ.
Paladin,

These 10 items come from Christ 2 (E=mc2). Have you read the "7 Seals"/'beyond Einstein theories? Please do and comment on them.
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